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Birth Control pills and seed germination

Well I was told by a friend that it increases the chances of getting a female by using water with a crushed BC pill in it. I tried it on my first grow from seed. I got 3 plants and after about 3 weeks I noticed I had one definite female. I let them sit for another week and still one for sure femal so I killed the other 2. I am about to start from seed again and am wondering if this actually works? It really can’t hurt to try again, or could you use that type of solution in the watering in the first cpl day’s of sprouting into soil?

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cali-high
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no it dosnt work,thats just dumb do it the normal way

bicycle racer
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lots of estrogen human estrogen though. maybe help keep herm prone plants female. plants do recognize this form of estrogen just like humans respond to phytoestrogens(isoflavones i think is the word for this) in things like soy. i cant see how it would help germination though

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I have used birth contorl pills for a hormone boost when my plants started to flower,but never in the germination period.I dont think estrogen in the beginng stages of seed germanation would effect the sex of the seed.

bicycle racer
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this is an interesting subject i am waiting for anyones thoughts. please no abusive or disrespectful comments that dont add anything to the discussion. only post if you have legitamite questions or answers.

MonkeeMan
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give them to your gf and just bang her

youll get more out of it that way

Gamberro
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This sounds like that thing my friend did. He figured adding protein mix to a plant would make it stronger and grow faster.

Plants are in an entirely different Kingdom of Life. Their biochemistry in relation to us stops at the fact that we’re both made of carbon. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

bicycle racer
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birth control on plants may or may not be of any value but plant estrogens effect humans and vice versa. that is why women going through menapause are suggested to eat soy and other particular plants for there estrodial compounds (phytoestrogens). there are also many plants that increase testosterone in males like tribulus etc.. by increasing various hormones some directly others indirectly. hormones are very powerful things and though different beetwen plants and mammals there definetley can be an effect. also when a animal dies in the forest or any where else eventually that protein becomes nutrients its called the nitrogen cycle. what does blood meal and some other ferts consist of lol

Gamberro
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well, yes, but because the compounds break down to their base components, as they say. Granted. However, in such a case, it would probably be easier, cheaper, and in all more useful to just add some soy milk to your water, no?

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Gamberro
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PS my point is more that the chemicals in a birth control pill effect the body in very specific ways. it makes no sense to me that that would also encourage estrogen in a plant, since a plant has no neuroreceptors to be spoken of.

bicycle racer
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i dont know maybe extracts from plants for a higher hormone concentration. i wonder if there are synthetic plant estrogens available. like there are rooting hormones and such. i would think adding estrogens to known female plants might benefit by promoting female features(FLOWERS) and possibly decreasing herms. if i run into a b.control pill i will try it on some females with some bloom fert just put into 12/12 and see if there is any diference like faster flower set growth etc.. might help might not but it would be a interesting test.

Coors
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the birth control pills make the plant grow faster, not supposed to be used when germinating. Actually never use them. just do it normal.

But the birth pill shit makes your plant grow bigger i read somewhere.

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tusseltussel
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slightly off topic but i have heard that crushed up aspirin in your water makes a huge difference in growth, had an old head hippie tel me about the estrogen thing ive never tried it but maybe it does maybe it doesn’t he is a smart hippie and been growing large quantities fow many many years.

the birth control pills make the plant grow faster, not supposed to be used when germinating. Actually never use them. just do it normal.

Marijuana As Birth Control?

According to a recent study, reported on in Forbes magazine, the chemicals in marijuana may prevent pregnancy by making it difficult for a fertilized egg to implant in the uterus.

Dey, the Dorothy Overall Wells professor of pediatrics, cell and developmental biology and pharmacology at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, and his colleagues conducted their experiments in mice. It’s known that marijuana, the most widely used illegal drug among women of childbearing age, binds to two receptors, called cannabinoid receptors 1 and 2 (CB1 and 2). These receptors are found in the brain and also in sperm, eggs and newly formed embryos.

Typically, the two receptors are activated by a signaling molecule called anandamide, which is synthesized by an enzyme known as NAPE-PLD and then is degraded by another enzyme called FAAH. This balance, or “tone,” of the anandamide is crucial for the embryo to develop normally.

Dey and his team suppressed FAAH activity in the mice. This increased the level of anandamide, which mimics what happens when a woman smokes marijuana and increases the level of THC, which binds to the same receptor as anandamide. The results showed that when FAAH activity is suppressed in the embryos and oviduct, anandamide levels rise, preventing the embryos from completing their passage to the uterus and compromising the pregnancy.

“This is a major finding,” said Dey, “that if you block FAAH and disturb anandamide levels, there is a compromised pregnancy outcome.”

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In an accompanying commentary in the journal, Herbert Schuel, professor emeritus of anatomy and cell biology at the University at Buffalo, State University of New York, said the Dey study findings “show that exogenous THC can swamp endogenous anandamide signaling systems,” affecting many processes in the body.

And Schuel offered another warning: Several drugs in development to suppress appetite work by modifying anandamide signaling. Since many women of reproductive age take weight-loss drugs, he suggested that these drugs must be carefully evaluated to determine the long-term effects on women.

The point that the article didn’t touch on, and that interests me, is that these scientists have touched on a non-hormonal birth control. I wonder if this will be picked up on by a pharmaceutical company.

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this has already been studied a bit in research labs, and the ‘cure’ for hormonal birth control pills is still a long way away (if even possible through cannabinoid mediated mechanisms). From what I heard in a recent discussion, it’s not even close to 100% effective (and there’s no assurance that a cannabinoid based brith control would ever be fully efffective) and no one wants birth control that works 75% of the time. Maybe a few more years will find a way to make this a safer form of birth control. Also i’ve heard that smoking the ganja lowers sperm count, lowering the chance of pregnancy somewhat as well (though i’ve heard this just enough times to make me think it might be an urban legend, I’ll have to check later today).

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No no, they got it all wrong. It works as birth control for the following reason:
Him: Let’s do it! Nyahhhh! (stoner laugh)
Her: Alright. That’s cool.
pause
Him: What were we gonna do?
Her: I don’t know. Smoke some more hash?
Him: Nyahhhh. you said HASH. H-AAAAASH.
Her: My hands feel like birds. Hands are soooo cooollll.
both pass out

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Hmm. I wonder if the herb once used, and wiped out by, the Greeks (or was it Romans..) did that. Would love to see the reaction of the anti-choice movement to someone making a food supliment, unregulatable by the FDA, that just happened to work as a contraceptive as well. Assuming of course that other side effects didn’t arise.

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“Her: I don’t know. Smoke some more hash?”

who on the cosmic muffin’s green earth still uses the word HASH?

Aside from you Brandon, of course.

I don’t think that weed would kill sex drive at all.

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Haaaaash. Nyaaahhhahah.
Wait, why was I responding?

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(j/k. I’ve heard say it plenty. Maybe it is a region specific preference, like soda, coke, pop, etc. hash is more surfer-ie. Weed is kinda high school or ghetto. Mary Jane is reserved for those over 40. Pot is a harsh word – too abrupt. Marijuana is what you call it in health class. A joint is a single object, as is a bowl, so wouldn’t work in the sentence. And my point wasn’t that it killed sex drive, just that they forgot they wanted to have sex. Grrr.. explained jokes never work. Bah humbug to you, sir!)

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Well I got it just fine. I think. my hands are birds. yesssss parrots. SQUAWK.

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Isn’t there some urban myth about weed decreasing sperm count? Killing two birds (or hands) with one stone (pun not intended, but definitely appreciated).

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Nyahahaaaa. you said stone.
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Wait, what?

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There will be no discussion of killing birds on this here site. 🙂

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RPM, there was a 1978 paper, from Europe I think, that first kicked off this idea that smoking weed decreased sperm count (sperm density is a more accurate term). Lots of confounding variables that confuse the issue, and the subjects were called, “heavy users.” A group at SUNY Buffalo did, indeed, show in 1998 that physiologically-relevant THC interferes with fertilization via inhibiting acrosomal fusion with the egg – seems that endogenous anandamide is a positive modulator of sperm-egg fusion and THC can antagonize that positive effect.

However, even cigarette smoking can also lower sperm count. Moreover, THC is a potential steroid-mimetic in that it influences LH, testosterone, and prolactin levels; hence, heavy partakers of the blessed herb who are male can sometimes develop gynecomastia – haven’t yet heard of a similar effect in women, but must have been studied by pharma or academics because of potential blockbuster (pun intended) lifestyle drug formulation. Don’t know if a THC breast cream would be as dangerous as estrogen breast creams, the latter of which should never, ever, never, be used by young women due to a logical increased risk of breast cancer.

BTW, anandamide is intentionally taken from the Sanskrit word, ananada, meaning ‘bliss.’

But, enough, for now. I should be doing a proof on a certain young professor’s grant application! BTW, Shelleba, you make some really great observations and scientific assocaitions outside your primary field that would make you a valuable contributor in pharma. or if you want to start a dietary supplement company!

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